Notes on Apr 28 session ID’ing and helping Try when she loses confidence
1. Online
a. Yoyo: not stopping with life down is an escape. Solution after my life goes down to signal a stop and she keeps going my life comes back up to match and keep asking until she decides to stop. Playing her game at that point. This helps her go from RB escaping back to LB.
b. 360 FQ turn from me in Z3 or further back—goal is to plant the outside HQ foot so she is not escaping and thus stepping across with the inside hind foot—just stay with it until she figures out the answer then release—so the good deal and answer for her is to not escape.
c. Circling game: transitions from leading rein—the idea is that a RB horse is assisted by using porcupine game instead of driving. (porcupine the least used of the 3 main games) Steady pressure is like hand holding. (remember Target’s need for contact at the canter.)
d. Z5 driving without driving—again using porcupine game—game is she can’t go back—only answer is taking charge and going forward like GoC reins mean go. So I ask for one front foot then the other until she figures out to go.
2. Riding
a. Everything is transitions from a leading rein—porcupine. Actually Try was LB in the ring. Difficult transition was asking for the canter from a leading rein and my energy without kissing. Actually BA had been telling me NOT to kiss also—puts too much pressure on the horse—Try gets snippy and Spiderman got more nervous.
Saturday, April 30, 2011
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Thursday, April 14, 2011
April 13 phone call with Dan T re humanality report/match
Humanality/Horsenality Match Thoughts
Humanality
• The RBE/LBE match is interesting but Try is LBI so I have asked for a new report.
• Try and I are fairly compatible as far as energy goes we are both cusp and can go easily one way or the other—the goal for me is to see where SHE is and act in accordance.
• Positive chart: 27 points RBE, RBI, LBI, LBE all about 15 point. Asking friends—law wives put me RBE, BA and Dan put me RBE. Curiously high school BF puts me LBI.
• RBE: I recognize this as appropriate to my life experiences including being cautious of LBEs. I go most RBE with LBEs i.e. Linda, BA but am drawn to them. I also get really RBE when leading a group and feel the need to be sure everyone is happy, excited, motivated etc.
• I want to be aware of the tendency toward too much people and horse pleasing.
• From the humanality I have particularly noted that I am over sensitive, and if hurt will pull away from people causing confusion for them.
Match with Try as LBE
• P4 says we are both active, fast to react and quick to get frustrated. I think I am more active and fast to react and Try is quicker to get frustrated. See later notes Dan phone call on frustration.
• Also that we enjoy each other’s playfulness and we do not—does Try only play dominance—I don’t see much pure joyful physical exuberance. Try’s playfulness is usually introverted play.
• I also don’t see much from Try of too much energy that needs challenging and if its there I am capable of working with it confidently.
• P6 Try when I’ve not been there drawn to me and in mind reading frame of mind. Canter to me when RB/ more drawn when ill etc. Attracted to Chris Shallcross and Annie Shank—introverts. So she often likes slow, introverted, caring energies.
• P8 L3 is different than L1 for us both!! I am much less emotional or frustrated and I do always go to the barn with a plan and the ability to readjust the plan quickly.
• However, Consistency and giving up within a session is an issue—would not show up when Dan is coaching and teaching me timing. I settle for too little and quit too soon—from LBI study overcoming drilling. Try has learned how to give a little so I will quit and how to offer something to avoid a game she doesn’t like. i.e. back feet on the pedestal to avoid circling!! See Dan notes—this will take time, experimentation, study etc.
• A huge huge issue for me is to be really in the moment reading Try!!!! So I can recognize signs of change. Also when I am distracted Try will get dominant. Repetition game
• Magic days: good weather, Sunday am, plan but not focused on it, enjoying the day—just feeling.
• P9 focus/dominance—encourage her idea “And then some” be aware of when to use it and to do it with a sense of the game/joy Jim Carrey I want to develop the sense of PLAY and timing for this.
• Being able to recognize the change from Try wanting to do something to ok now I’m ready to do what you want to do i.e. passenger game waiting at the gate 2 min
• P11 using patterns BORING even mixing them up. I’d rather be creative and make up my own. If I’m bored does try pick up on that? Sometimes she gets bored all on her own. Try got bored with LBI stuff with Chris and Sherri and I did a little warmup strong and LBE circle and change direction and she was yeehaw LBE! (boredom)
Riding match
• I am not a risk taker. Try is super safe or maybe I have learned not to go there and she doesn’t offer. Try is not too exuberant.
• Improvements/changes
o Warmup strong and Try is happy to move her feet
o She is less dominant in behavior if I am not rude
• We are no longer doing long boring laps i.e. no stirrups but Spiderman is taking up the slack. With Try break it up with transitions, trail, passenger, ride in the field and going places. Do a few and move on. Wheelbarrow, back from HQ yield, flying leaf.
Learning frame of mind
• She does love new and interesting
• She does love to dominate just not as much
• “willing” doesn’t say enough its both of us open to each other, relaxed, soft, mentally attuned. Soul mate kinda stuff. Willing goes beyond compliant it is actively connected.
• Play must it be joyous and active and can Try doit? No see Dan notes play is active for me but not for Try.
Situational
Checked lots to get feedback: RBE 11, RBI 9, LBI 7 and LBE 4.
Priorities
• Losing focus, being in the moment, aware of Try each moment watching for changes with strategy in mind.
• Not waiting: for the change, reaction, over rewarding and over cueing
• Internal dialog vs just being i.e. thinking vs feeling
• Afraid of damaging horse mentally or emotionally! My reason for getting into Parelli
• Putting too much pressure on horse so he/she loses confidence
Dan Comments on Humanality Match
Reports in general
Reports have limits as they are a single dot in a single spot and address a main tendency. Also the data is dependent on my input and thoughts at that moment. So this changes through time and situation etc. But it does give some good ideas to consider.
Positive and negative charts:
The goal is to get Try off the negative chart or as low as possible and onto the positive chart as high as possible. The goal is balanced—positive in all 4 quadrants.
Another consideration is the Parelli level of the horse and the savvy level of the human so that issues become more subtle and reading the horse occurs in more depth etc.
The report does not address the right brain side of Try. Although she has moved to less dominant on this chart, I would like to find another RBE with a RBI horse just to see what is said.
Dan mentioned a student and her TB mare (also a 20 year old LBI who goes RBI). For that mare maintaining a trot or canter is using discomfort—so she learns to be LBI as the lesser discomfort. Needs big enough contrast of discomfort to be effective. LBI breaking gait and subsequent change of direction.
So Try bracey toward RB—more pressure does NOT work when she is RB but in LB it does. Try’s job keep me sleeping not bring my energy up and cause more discomfort. RB slowing down and allowing extra time-- Observing the moment of LBI/RBI changes. If LBI may need to rattle her cage which will send her RBI then wait for her to go back LBI.
For Try when she gets frustrated and witchy—check to see whether I am rudely over cueing OR Dan suggests more likely wimpy which will be interpreted by Try as predatory. People who are nice are careful and there for sneaky which is predatory so nice becomes a direct line to predatory!
Riding cueing with leg—try it first at phase 1 (phase 1 refined to our level) and check her response and then be effective if need be.
When Try is nonresponsive (?) ITS NOT ABOUT the game. She is so clever at getting the game on her terms, taking over the game. i.e. offering pedestal to avoid circling.
LBE play: report assumes active play. I have assumed play is active and full of energy AND for me personally it is. For Try, not so much—less active play i.e. playing tricks on me, curious, mouthy. That can still be enjoyable playfulness for us both. It won’t satisfy my NEED for active play. I need to acknowledge it and accept it. If I do see exuberant play for Try, know it won’t last long—i.e. turnout bucking/gallop. Her age is also a factor.
Quitting too soon:
Dan says this isn’t just RBE but is a common human trait. Takes experience and experimentation on lots of horses. Somethimes it is good to play though and others ok to quit. How to know if going a little longer will gring the greater benefit? Humans hate being wrong—fear mistake. I fear damaging a horse mentally or emotionally. Dan says they are still better off even tho they are our guinea pigs.
Chris attracted Try—Dan says it is her Introverted and nurturing energy. RBIs have a strong nurturing quality that can make them take charge people to protect their “family.”
Living in the Moment/Magic Days
Dan says I am actually quite suited to this because of the RBE feeling and creative side. I am innately programmed to be good at it. Great. (LB think more, RB feel more) Of course, some days I need to think to learn/teach/create a new muscle memory and that is good as well.
Willingness vs compliance
I define willing as something less than open but that may just be semantics. I want positive reflexes so it becomes a dance—feeling and doing and moving together.
Dan stresses making deposits into her motivation account. Purpose games, ride Try to plan with Spiderman, move cows, synchronized riding with some one else, If I have focus it is not drilling. i.e. could use Trys HQ yield to move Spiderman. Try will ask what’s in it for me and if her account is filled she will offer the withdrawal and “read my mind.” Lately, field, trail, passenger, trips are deposits. Doing just a little of focused drilling??? i.e. HQ stuff—do it once—its good and go on to something different.
Humanality
• The RBE/LBE match is interesting but Try is LBI so I have asked for a new report.
• Try and I are fairly compatible as far as energy goes we are both cusp and can go easily one way or the other—the goal for me is to see where SHE is and act in accordance.
• Positive chart: 27 points RBE, RBI, LBI, LBE all about 15 point. Asking friends—law wives put me RBE, BA and Dan put me RBE. Curiously high school BF puts me LBI.
• RBE: I recognize this as appropriate to my life experiences including being cautious of LBEs. I go most RBE with LBEs i.e. Linda, BA but am drawn to them. I also get really RBE when leading a group and feel the need to be sure everyone is happy, excited, motivated etc.
• I want to be aware of the tendency toward too much people and horse pleasing.
• From the humanality I have particularly noted that I am over sensitive, and if hurt will pull away from people causing confusion for them.
Match with Try as LBE
• P4 says we are both active, fast to react and quick to get frustrated. I think I am more active and fast to react and Try is quicker to get frustrated. See later notes Dan phone call on frustration.
• Also that we enjoy each other’s playfulness and we do not—does Try only play dominance—I don’t see much pure joyful physical exuberance. Try’s playfulness is usually introverted play.
• I also don’t see much from Try of too much energy that needs challenging and if its there I am capable of working with it confidently.
• P6 Try when I’ve not been there drawn to me and in mind reading frame of mind. Canter to me when RB/ more drawn when ill etc. Attracted to Chris Shallcross and Annie Shank—introverts. So she often likes slow, introverted, caring energies.
• P8 L3 is different than L1 for us both!! I am much less emotional or frustrated and I do always go to the barn with a plan and the ability to readjust the plan quickly.
• However, Consistency and giving up within a session is an issue—would not show up when Dan is coaching and teaching me timing. I settle for too little and quit too soon—from LBI study overcoming drilling. Try has learned how to give a little so I will quit and how to offer something to avoid a game she doesn’t like. i.e. back feet on the pedestal to avoid circling!! See Dan notes—this will take time, experimentation, study etc.
• A huge huge issue for me is to be really in the moment reading Try!!!! So I can recognize signs of change. Also when I am distracted Try will get dominant. Repetition game
• Magic days: good weather, Sunday am, plan but not focused on it, enjoying the day—just feeling.
• P9 focus/dominance—encourage her idea “And then some” be aware of when to use it and to do it with a sense of the game/joy Jim Carrey I want to develop the sense of PLAY and timing for this.
• Being able to recognize the change from Try wanting to do something to ok now I’m ready to do what you want to do i.e. passenger game waiting at the gate 2 min
• P11 using patterns BORING even mixing them up. I’d rather be creative and make up my own. If I’m bored does try pick up on that? Sometimes she gets bored all on her own. Try got bored with LBI stuff with Chris and Sherri and I did a little warmup strong and LBE circle and change direction and she was yeehaw LBE! (boredom)
Riding match
• I am not a risk taker. Try is super safe or maybe I have learned not to go there and she doesn’t offer. Try is not too exuberant.
• Improvements/changes
o Warmup strong and Try is happy to move her feet
o She is less dominant in behavior if I am not rude
• We are no longer doing long boring laps i.e. no stirrups but Spiderman is taking up the slack. With Try break it up with transitions, trail, passenger, ride in the field and going places. Do a few and move on. Wheelbarrow, back from HQ yield, flying leaf.
Learning frame of mind
• She does love new and interesting
• She does love to dominate just not as much
• “willing” doesn’t say enough its both of us open to each other, relaxed, soft, mentally attuned. Soul mate kinda stuff. Willing goes beyond compliant it is actively connected.
• Play must it be joyous and active and can Try doit? No see Dan notes play is active for me but not for Try.
Situational
Checked lots to get feedback: RBE 11, RBI 9, LBI 7 and LBE 4.
Priorities
• Losing focus, being in the moment, aware of Try each moment watching for changes with strategy in mind.
• Not waiting: for the change, reaction, over rewarding and over cueing
• Internal dialog vs just being i.e. thinking vs feeling
• Afraid of damaging horse mentally or emotionally! My reason for getting into Parelli
• Putting too much pressure on horse so he/she loses confidence
Dan Comments on Humanality Match
Reports in general
Reports have limits as they are a single dot in a single spot and address a main tendency. Also the data is dependent on my input and thoughts at that moment. So this changes through time and situation etc. But it does give some good ideas to consider.
Positive and negative charts:
The goal is to get Try off the negative chart or as low as possible and onto the positive chart as high as possible. The goal is balanced—positive in all 4 quadrants.
Another consideration is the Parelli level of the horse and the savvy level of the human so that issues become more subtle and reading the horse occurs in more depth etc.
The report does not address the right brain side of Try. Although she has moved to less dominant on this chart, I would like to find another RBE with a RBI horse just to see what is said.
Dan mentioned a student and her TB mare (also a 20 year old LBI who goes RBI). For that mare maintaining a trot or canter is using discomfort—so she learns to be LBI as the lesser discomfort. Needs big enough contrast of discomfort to be effective. LBI breaking gait and subsequent change of direction.
So Try bracey toward RB—more pressure does NOT work when she is RB but in LB it does. Try’s job keep me sleeping not bring my energy up and cause more discomfort. RB slowing down and allowing extra time-- Observing the moment of LBI/RBI changes. If LBI may need to rattle her cage which will send her RBI then wait for her to go back LBI.
For Try when she gets frustrated and witchy—check to see whether I am rudely over cueing OR Dan suggests more likely wimpy which will be interpreted by Try as predatory. People who are nice are careful and there for sneaky which is predatory so nice becomes a direct line to predatory!
Riding cueing with leg—try it first at phase 1 (phase 1 refined to our level) and check her response and then be effective if need be.
When Try is nonresponsive (?) ITS NOT ABOUT the game. She is so clever at getting the game on her terms, taking over the game. i.e. offering pedestal to avoid circling.
LBE play: report assumes active play. I have assumed play is active and full of energy AND for me personally it is. For Try, not so much—less active play i.e. playing tricks on me, curious, mouthy. That can still be enjoyable playfulness for us both. It won’t satisfy my NEED for active play. I need to acknowledge it and accept it. If I do see exuberant play for Try, know it won’t last long—i.e. turnout bucking/gallop. Her age is also a factor.
Quitting too soon:
Dan says this isn’t just RBE but is a common human trait. Takes experience and experimentation on lots of horses. Somethimes it is good to play though and others ok to quit. How to know if going a little longer will gring the greater benefit? Humans hate being wrong—fear mistake. I fear damaging a horse mentally or emotionally. Dan says they are still better off even tho they are our guinea pigs.
Chris attracted Try—Dan says it is her Introverted and nurturing energy. RBIs have a strong nurturing quality that can make them take charge people to protect their “family.”
Living in the Moment/Magic Days
Dan says I am actually quite suited to this because of the RBE feeling and creative side. I am innately programmed to be good at it. Great. (LB think more, RB feel more) Of course, some days I need to think to learn/teach/create a new muscle memory and that is good as well.
Willingness vs compliance
I define willing as something less than open but that may just be semantics. I want positive reflexes so it becomes a dance—feeling and doing and moving together.
Dan stresses making deposits into her motivation account. Purpose games, ride Try to plan with Spiderman, move cows, synchronized riding with some one else, If I have focus it is not drilling. i.e. could use Trys HQ yield to move Spiderman. Try will ask what’s in it for me and if her account is filled she will offer the withdrawal and “read my mind.” Lately, field, trail, passenger, trips are deposits. Doing just a little of focused drilling??? i.e. HQ stuff—do it once—its good and go on to something different.
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