Oct 26 phone call Dan
1. Having fun with Haylie
2. Patterns
3. Stick together – distance and intersperse with other games
4. Online circling draw – challenge to draw at a trot
5. Blowing 2+3
6. Target—has to earn the right to do freestyle riding
7. Cutting cows 3
8. Treats
9. Cradle bridle
10. Anger and fear
11. Jim Carrey – having fun with phases
1. Having fun with Haylie
1.1. I will earn a higher place in the pecking order in Try’s mind if I pony her as I play the driving game with Haylie—even driving her away from the water, other horses etc. What fun. Important—not emotional for me—just fun.
2. Patterns
2.1. Patterns are a tool: can be over used, boring, harsh.
2.2. Follow the human’s focus
2.3. Balance – knows the pattern, takes over the game, my job good riding and have her focus
2.4. + reflex—she should hunt for my focus
2.5. Not about relinquishing leadership and letting Try take over the pattern while I am in lalaland
2.6. Cutting: horse must take over; dressage human does not relinquish leadership
3. Stick Together Game
3.1. Moving farther away – the breakover distance factor.
3.1.1. In the wild horse knows distance—shorter he can’t out run and must go through it; longer the horse will try to out run. This is instinct not disrespect
3.1.2. So for me what is Try’s current distance? From how far away will she stay with me, not leave or break the connection?
3.2. Yes, good to break up the intensity of this game with games she enjoys
3.3. Draw is openness eventually
4. On line circling game
4.1. Next step: if Try is trotting on the circle, can I draw her at a trot? My energy level is key. Hint: speed her up at the trot before asking for the draw—set it up for success.
4.2. Note: draw/bring back is a change of direction on the circle without the redirect.
4.3. Not be overly concerned about the ears—builds resentment. Back her IF she is actually driving me.
5. Blowing to release tension
5.1. Stages: use interaction to help her find the relaxation or wait for it to show up
5.2. How are you feeling today—open mindedness
5.3. Hand holding/leave alone/or jump in and do thing, ready to go?
6. Target: earn the right to do freestyle
7. Cutting: putting principal to purpose
7.1. Follow a cow
7.2. Follow a confident horse
7.3. Try drive a cow
7.4. RB? Threshold approach and retreat
8. Treats NO not at all
9. Cradle bridle yes
10. Anger and fear: yes anger is a form of fear—what is important is what is causing it?
11. Pushing Try’s buttons
11.1. An opportunity to play through it and come out a winner
11.2. More confident, relaxed, respectful and understanding
11.3. Match it, mirror + 4 ounces
11.4. I have to be able to ride it!
11.5. I do not want to ride a horse in a powerful position
11.6. Unpowerful is HQ disengaged
11.7. Technique for attitude adjustment: HQ disengage—just keep circling until she asks for less. Lets go and lets go and lets go. My energy level is key. When Try wants to stop I win. Not emotional. Intensity of my attitude not speed. Not a fight.
11.8. Persistance and begin it immediately to keep the problem smaller.
11.9. Circling to take control of zone 4.
12. Jim Carrey
12.1. Jokester
12.2. LB horse and me happily in the middle of Arnold and Richard then can play Jim Carrey
12.3. Game of tag to be played by me with a fun mischievous attitude. Gotcha—flick w/popper w/sideways swing of string into her body. She wins be getting going and I win by getting what I want. i.e. phase 1 snappy departure on the circle.
12.4. Have to have the problem to play and be LB
Wednesday, October 27, 2010
Thursday, October 14, 2010
Summary of my thoughts on fluid rein, partial diseng etc from Kelly/Dan instruction
I am excited to see my thoughts coming together, not only is instruction from Kelly/Dan congruent but because Bethanna sat in on the time with Dan, I KNOW I will get a lot accomplished--actually easier between BA and I because of our instructor/student long time relationship.
I like Karen Rohlf's statement that PNH is great on the psychology of the horse and classical dressage strong on the physical development of the horse. I think PNH is also not strong on developing the rider--hard to do through home study anyway in my opinion.
Anyway....
Stretching/fluid rein
1. Try is working with a hollow back, not using her HQ well thus heavy on the forehand.
2. Stretching causes the horse to use his HQ and round up throughthe back, eventually developing strength in the top line. Method is to comb the reins with a little contact--either slowly or very slowly then immediately release when Try stretches down. Try has now learned this so well that she goes into the stretching easily and frequently--even offers it--so it is feeling good to her.
3. When she stretches then can go on to something else. When her back hollows again, can stretch and regain her rounding up through the back. Obviously being careful and giving her time to develop the strength.
B. Partial disengagement etc
1. What to work on after Try stretches: exercises to get her using her hind quarters. With Kelly the first exercise was bending on the circle using my inside leg, suspension rein or slight indirect rein and match with my body position and energy. Circle both directions at walk and trot.
2. Then we did bullseye in and out with continued shaping on the circle.
3. Leg yields on and off the rail.
4. With Dan: leg yields off the rail and later just back to rail at a walk then combine to off/on yield and then trot.
5. Then partial disengagement as an exercize to engage HQ with the benefit that same exercise can be used to help RBE relax.
6. For me, I would like to get the partial disengagement solid enough that Try reads that as time to relax.
If we get so Try is using her abs and rounding up more, develing the top line then that is great for her physical conditioning for her continued aging and ALL THE GOAL I have at present.
I like Karen Rohlf's statement that PNH is great on the psychology of the horse and classical dressage strong on the physical development of the horse. I think PNH is also not strong on developing the rider--hard to do through home study anyway in my opinion.
Anyway....
Stretching/fluid rein
1. Try is working with a hollow back, not using her HQ well thus heavy on the forehand.
2. Stretching causes the horse to use his HQ and round up throughthe back, eventually developing strength in the top line. Method is to comb the reins with a little contact--either slowly or very slowly then immediately release when Try stretches down. Try has now learned this so well that she goes into the stretching easily and frequently--even offers it--so it is feeling good to her.
3. When she stretches then can go on to something else. When her back hollows again, can stretch and regain her rounding up through the back. Obviously being careful and giving her time to develop the strength.
B. Partial disengagement etc
1. What to work on after Try stretches: exercises to get her using her hind quarters. With Kelly the first exercise was bending on the circle using my inside leg, suspension rein or slight indirect rein and match with my body position and energy. Circle both directions at walk and trot.
2. Then we did bullseye in and out with continued shaping on the circle.
3. Leg yields on and off the rail.
4. With Dan: leg yields off the rail and later just back to rail at a walk then combine to off/on yield and then trot.
5. Then partial disengagement as an exercize to engage HQ with the benefit that same exercise can be used to help RBE relax.
6. For me, I would like to get the partial disengagement solid enough that Try reads that as time to relax.
If we get so Try is using her abs and rounding up more, develing the top line then that is great for her physical conditioning for her continued aging and ALL THE GOAL I have at present.
Wednesday, October 13, 2010
Oct 12 3 hours with Dan Thompson
October 12 Dan Thompson REally basic, foundation stuff. Nitty gritty of whats going on with Try, between Try and I, oh my!
To Try: I am so sorry for what I do not know and have not known. I love you. How could I not know you were going RBE in situations? Yesterday I was fascinated and excited to learn—the problem solving being more interesting than having a perfect horse. Today I am feeling a lack of confidence in myself and like a “bad person” for not being more accomplished. Also I am feeling that soon—I need to set that feeling aside, suck it up and go on.
1. Foundation: draw and confidence issue
2. Walking with each other in the round pen at liberty
3. I have still been doing to Try not with. (Back to want vs make?)
4. The new walking together stick to me game
a. My hand behind the withers—I am well back in Z3-4. Life up, point and use my hip pressing against her if need be to get her to move forward.
b. Just move forward, wherever and as much as she wants. Just lovely being together and being connected.
c. Can add change of direction together and change of sides. Basically I turn away from her and move her HQ. Change sides I move out in front enuf to direct FQ—see dvd from Joyce.
d. Can later move out on the circle—Try on the rail and me more in the center for the draw. Do not do change of direction here as it destroys draw.
5. Girth: rub the itchy place—its RB brace—wait, I understand and I care. LBI’s often bullied because they are laid back and tolerant—treated rudely.
6. Circling on line (part of tightening the girth process) Dan waves at me to break my pattern of extreme concentration. Bring back is phase 1—rock back only—no rope and keep backing in a small circle until she comes to me. She did this pretty readily both directions. (So I have been rude in using the rope.)
7. Riding: lead off with a direct rein.
8. On the rail: leg yields with a suspension rein. Issue: to be effective to get a really good leg yield—add stick if need be.
9. Talking to the feet: my legs talk to, which rein talks to which foot.
10. However, Try gets up—it is RBE according to Dan so we continue until Try relaxes otherwise if I stop I just teach her to be RBE. We did partial disengagement at a posting trot for forever. Try would intersperse with the stretching down—she really has that. Dan said reason it took so long was as RBE I needed to match her energy—if she was an 8, I was only a 5. Not get stronger and do more in my leadership but be the stronger leader by bringing up my energy.
11. Sooooo, we have situational impulsion issues i.e. level 2. I guess I knew they were there and Try has taught me to just not go there?? Examples are the reining stuff, lead changes, jumps, canter at times, coming off the rail, the gait, barn sweet etc. Also transitions in general. Western pleasure baggage as well. So plan is to take some of the most basic RBE things—ones I am confident to work on and do them until Try relaxes.
12. Approach and retreat—start at the sweet spot and make it less comfortable i.e. by annoying her by rhythmically slapping myself on the shoulders.
13. Homework: identify a plan for RBE situations. Enjoy some lovely time together with the new stick to me game. Study the dvd Joyce makes of the session. Review partial disengagement dvd.
To Try: I am so sorry for what I do not know and have not known. I love you. How could I not know you were going RBE in situations? Yesterday I was fascinated and excited to learn—the problem solving being more interesting than having a perfect horse. Today I am feeling a lack of confidence in myself and like a “bad person” for not being more accomplished. Also I am feeling that soon—I need to set that feeling aside, suck it up and go on.
1. Foundation: draw and confidence issue
2. Walking with each other in the round pen at liberty
3. I have still been doing to Try not with. (Back to want vs make?)
4. The new walking together stick to me game
a. My hand behind the withers—I am well back in Z3-4. Life up, point and use my hip pressing against her if need be to get her to move forward.
b. Just move forward, wherever and as much as she wants. Just lovely being together and being connected.
c. Can add change of direction together and change of sides. Basically I turn away from her and move her HQ. Change sides I move out in front enuf to direct FQ—see dvd from Joyce.
d. Can later move out on the circle—Try on the rail and me more in the center for the draw. Do not do change of direction here as it destroys draw.
5. Girth: rub the itchy place—its RB brace—wait, I understand and I care. LBI’s often bullied because they are laid back and tolerant—treated rudely.
6. Circling on line (part of tightening the girth process) Dan waves at me to break my pattern of extreme concentration. Bring back is phase 1—rock back only—no rope and keep backing in a small circle until she comes to me. She did this pretty readily both directions. (So I have been rude in using the rope.)
7. Riding: lead off with a direct rein.
8. On the rail: leg yields with a suspension rein. Issue: to be effective to get a really good leg yield—add stick if need be.
9. Talking to the feet: my legs talk to, which rein talks to which foot.
10. However, Try gets up—it is RBE according to Dan so we continue until Try relaxes otherwise if I stop I just teach her to be RBE. We did partial disengagement at a posting trot for forever. Try would intersperse with the stretching down—she really has that. Dan said reason it took so long was as RBE I needed to match her energy—if she was an 8, I was only a 5. Not get stronger and do more in my leadership but be the stronger leader by bringing up my energy.
11. Sooooo, we have situational impulsion issues i.e. level 2. I guess I knew they were there and Try has taught me to just not go there?? Examples are the reining stuff, lead changes, jumps, canter at times, coming off the rail, the gait, barn sweet etc. Also transitions in general. Western pleasure baggage as well. So plan is to take some of the most basic RBE things—ones I am confident to work on and do them until Try relaxes.
12. Approach and retreat—start at the sweet spot and make it less comfortable i.e. by annoying her by rhythmically slapping myself on the shoulders.
13. Homework: identify a plan for RBE situations. Enjoy some lovely time together with the new stick to me game. Study the dvd Joyce makes of the session. Review partial disengagement dvd.
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